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The BIG question 
7th-Feb-2010 08:18 pm
Are we going to vote Mr Rudd back in or are we going to vote for Mr Abbott? No let's not get into the cult of personality, has Labor done well enough to get a second term, or do they get sent back to the salt mines and let the liberals have a go?

Personally I don't think they've done enough, but I don't think the liberals have anything to offer either.
I'm not happy with the climate change legislation, it tries to please to many and ends up pleasing none.

I'm not impressed with Mr Garrett, who's he think he is fooling in-fact now I think about it I haven't heard any Labor member say any thing intelligent.

Maybe it's time to vote the greens into power!

That would really piss off the born to rule arseholes in both parties.
7th-Feb-2010 09:43 am (UTC)
I'm really disappointed with Kevin07, especially with the filtering and censorship shenanigans. However, the idea of Tony Abbot being in charge genuinely terrifies me.
7th-Feb-2010 10:53 am (UTC)
Hate Abbott. Hate, hate, hate.

The Greens are ridiculous. Immature, with ill thought out social policies and while I grasp that they're well-meaning, they're not my cup of tea.

Labour has done a lot to claw back employee rights, and although the continued support of outrageous house prices shits me, I think they did a half decent job keeping our economy together. I don't much care about global warming, to be honest.

So, ahem, the slightly conservative viewpoint:D
7th-Feb-2010 12:59 pm (UTC)
I'd like to know your reasons behind saying the Greens are immature.
8th-Feb-2010 10:18 pm (UTC)
I firmly believe that struggle is an essential part of being a capable, self sufficient adult. The Greens like to make excuses for sections of society - single mothers, aboriginals, refugees - to the point where I believe they do more harm than good. Additionally, their over enthusiastic support of multiculturalism bugs me. The last thing we need to be doing is encouraging patriarchies all over again. I also believe that a healthy degree of assimilation is preferable. Where they not so far to the left, I would vote for them more often. Despite their failings, they have heart and good intentions which is more than one could say for the liberals or labor.
8th-Feb-2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
You don't think refugees have had to deal with struggle? You don't think Indigenous Australians have struggled? There's a huge difference between "refugee" and "migrant".

I also don't understand the connection between multiculturalism and patriarchies.
9th-Feb-2010 06:20 am (UTC)
I am not denying their struggles, however simply because someone 'has struggled' does not entitle them to benefits. Handouts breed an unsavoury mentality and create areas that become hotbeds of social and economic disadvantage. Plus, I have an ungodly lack of tolerance for people with no sense of personal responsibility. It isn't 'fair' that aboriginals, refugees, etc, have been/get treated negatively, but welfare is not the solution.

In respect to your non-understanding of the link between multiculturalism and patriarchy, my (poorly worded) view is that wholehearted support of other cultures inevitably leads to ideals and ways of life that are incompatible to what I believe is acceptable.
8th-Feb-2010 04:57 am (UTC)
Bring back Hawke.

8th-Feb-2010 09:25 am (UTC)
Labor now is what the Liberals should be. Liberals are the loony extreme (as a whole). Greens could be the new Labor if they survive growing. At least the Greens we had back in the election. I haven't heard much of them since.

In the last byelection for my area the Australian Sex Party had the most well thought out, rational policies and I don't just mean about sex.

I'll vote Labor or Greens, depending on their claimed policies at the time. (Australian Sex Party first, but they won't get enough votes to count.)
9th-Feb-2010 01:30 am (UTC)
Labor has dropped the ball on a lot of things, and I am no fan, but the alternative is, well, there isn't one.

And don't forget that the rest of the world is in a crippling recession. The stimulus will be in the "how to" section of economics text books.

The Copenhagen non-event has severely hurt the Greens, as it's effectively taken real action on climate change off the agenda, and they will be painted as "dangerous loonies" by all sides now. Be interesting to see how they handle health and tax reform (probably the 2 big issues of this year).

My vote will be going to ASP.
10th-Feb-2010 07:51 am (UTC)
you've got to be kidding. Australian shooters party? What a bunch of losers. You've sure pissed that vote down the drain.
10th-Feb-2010 07:54 am (UTC)
second thoughts - from the context - Australian SEX party -SORRY! - well, that's a lot better than the shooters - but somehow I don't they're at risk of forming government.
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