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Dirty tricks 
22nd-Nov-2007 10:16 am
Thank god the election is almost here. Being constantly exposed to all these ads, something has become extremely clear. There is no a single ad coming from the Liberal party that is positive. Every last one is fear and smear. They have nothing to say about themselves. Of course, in previous elections both sides have given a smearing, but this one stands out especially because it is only the Liberals doing it (though the Labor ad about Costello taking over and there being "nothing we can do about it" comes close).

And this negative approach of course has trickled down to their supporters. Cars and homes have been vandalised for sporting Labor posters. Fraudulent letters were sent out in Bennelong supposedly by Maxine McKew thanking people for their support but asking them to take down the Labor posters because there has been violence against people with the posters. And of course there's the letter drop supposedly by a group of Islamic extremists urging people to vote for Labor.

Of course this isn't directly the inner party's actions. John Howard isn't attacking cars with cans of dog food. But it is the consistently negative message that is urging this behaviour on. Hate the opposition. They are less important than you. It is OK to play dirty tricks on them. Fear the future and fight it any way you can.

The conservative movement used to be staid and respectable. That hasn't been the case since Malcolm Fraser retired.
21st-Nov-2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
Did you just blame the actions of individuals to the conservative movement?

Give us a little credit please. If anything, it is your self righteousness and one-sided blogs that make me want to commit acts of violence.
22nd-Nov-2007 12:41 am (UTC)
Was that irony?
22nd-Nov-2007 12:42 am (UTC)
The widespread actions of individuals, yes. Most of the blame rests on the heads of the individuals of course, but you can't make a stink without attracting flies and the Libs have been making a hell of a stink.

Though if you think my post was too one-sides, feel free to furnish us with examples of positive Liberal advertising, or of Labor committing fraudulent letter drops.

Pat Farmer, a Liberal in Macarthur, has been the victim of ongoing vandalism attacks. He blames the unions (who else?). His is about the only story around of this kind of behaviour against Liberals. Or is that just the leftist media?
22nd-Nov-2007 01:11 am (UTC)
Liberals have many enemies. Can you safely say that in the eleven years they have been in power the labor supporters, the union officials, the socialists, or the environmentalists have never acted out in violence... or vandalized, or at very least, inconvenienced people's lives?

Wake up. This has nothing to do with what side you are on. People are generally dicks. And adopting the 'you are with me or against me' further make you... an ENEMY. MAHAHAHAH.
22nd-Nov-2007 12:51 am (UTC)
As much as I agree with your complaint about his generalisation (sources please!), you aren't exactly doing a good job of defending the "conservative movement".

Labor has been rather negative too, but they do at least provide some respite by actually talking about their policy. I've been annoyed in particular by the failure of the minor parties to bring up matters of policy.

Family First's ad? We're not Liberal, we're not Labor and we're definitely not the Greens. Therefore, we are good.

22nd-Nov-2007 01:13 am (UTC)
In my opinion Labor has run a better (TV) campaign, end of story. But I agree with ayvah, it's the most frustrating part of any election campaign: too much playing off fears and opinion polls, not enough discussion of policies. At least not for the majority of voters, who get most of their information from these ads.

I am praying, though, that the Liberals will find their anti-union ads come back to bite them in the ass, in a big way, come election day.
22nd-Nov-2007 01:18 am (UTC)
I'm against the conservative movement.

Labor has a much better marketing team that the Liberals. I think the only way the coalition can turn it around is if they just do a rip of the I'm a MAC, and I'm a PC ad.

That would be great.
22nd-Nov-2007 03:30 am (UTC)
if they did the Mac vs PC ad... I would think Howard would be the PC and Rudd the Mac... so it probably wouldnt work in their favour.
22nd-Nov-2007 12:43 am (UTC)
The conservatives are proving the old adage that money cannot buy class.

While reading today's news, I was seriously lol-ing at Jackie Kelly's bogan husband being 'attacked by labor goons'. WHAT? You mean that letterdropping fabricated brochures that are intended to provoke racial and religious tension would piss people off? Who'd have thunk?
22nd-Nov-2007 06:13 am (UTC)
I agree.
I am totally sickened by the current Liberal antics. What REALLY made me angry the other day was a 10 minute advertisement on the ABC with John Howard speaking and basically just totally bagging out Labor. It really made me angry because they harp on about the ABC needing to be fair and balanced but then they put a LIBERAL AD on there! That sealed my decision to never ever vote Liberal as long as John Howard and that smarmy Costello are there.

I think this grass roots crazy-Liberalism is due to all those psychotic Young Liberals - those guys are on a total power trip. Male dominated egos to the max.


22nd-Nov-2007 07:06 am (UTC)
I think you'll find that Kevin Rudd also had an ad spot on the ABC, it's tradition.
22nd-Nov-2007 08:09 am (UTC)
I think Kerry O'Brien went pretty hard on Rudd last night, actually. And ABC local radio is so scared of sounding remotely left wing that I've heard them accuse their own audience of being Labor stooges (unjustifably too).
22nd-Nov-2007 06:16 am (UTC)
I think the real issue here is that the electorate is full of people who don't know ANYTHING about politics and basically the parties are catering to the lowest common denominator. The other week there was a very interesting Four Corners documentary which followed around a few different "average" voters. It was a wake up call to me about the level of engagement most people have with politics.
23rd-Nov-2007 03:37 pm (UTC)
I agree.
22nd-Nov-2007 07:14 am (UTC)
couldnt agree more.
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